"THAT'S WHY WE STARTED APPLE, WE SAID YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO LOSE. I WAS 20 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME, WOZ WAS 24-25. SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. WE HAVE NO FAMILIES, NO CHILDREN, NO HOUSES WOZ HAD AN OLD CAR. I HAD A VOLKSWAGEN VAN, I MEAN, ALL WE WERE GOING TO LOSE IS OUR CARS AND THE SHIRTS OFF OUR BACKS."